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"I found the first guy.
It's me. I'm dying."

— Charlie Bourg

Two men. One defect.

Page 1 is the argument: nine years of documented warnings, raised through proper channels by experts and frontline workers, and ultimately brushed aside.

This page is the human cost — the stories behind the numbers.

If you are a healthcare worker, you have seen your share of bad outcomes. You know that a tragedy is not the same thing as an error. So do the veterans reading this. These are not two sad stories. These are two errors, documented by the department, and the people who paid for them.

Charlie

Charlie Bourg standing at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial wall
Charlie Bourg at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial
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Charlie Bourg. Chewelah, Washington. Army, Vietnam era. Since 2016, he had served as a patient advocate at Spokane VA — the person veterans came to for help navigating the system.

2020

Spokane became the first VA hospital in the country to switch to the new electronic health record. That December, a routine blood test flagged possible prostate cancer, and Bourg's provider sent him to a urologist.

"She tried to put in the referral to urology, and it took her three times to get it in. And at that time she goes — got it this time."

— Charlie Bourg

"got it this time"

She didn't get it that time. Instead, the referral went into what the system calls the unknown queue. Nobody at urology saw it. Nobody told his provider it hadn't arrived. Charlie waited for a call that was never coming.

"the new EHR did not alert the provider but accepted the entry as successful and then routed the order to the unknown queue."

— VA Office of Inspector General, Report #22-01137-204, July 2022

His prostate cancer diagnosis was delayed by seventeen months. By that time, it had spread to his lymph nodes.

Meanwhile, as patient advocate, Charlie spent that time helping other veterans — working with reporters and advocates to find someone the new system had hurt.

"We were out hunting to find out who it was being injured, and one day I had to call Charlie and tell him, 'Hey, I found the first guy.'"

"It's me.
I'm dying."

— Charlie Bourg

Charlie Monroe, Navy Seabee veteran, walking on a sidewalk
Charlie Monroe, Navy Seabee veteran
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Charlie Monroe served in the Navy as a Seabee. He and Charlie Bourg have been friends for seven years.

"At first, I didn't believe him, and then it just took all the wind out of my sails. I'm losing a brother. What else can I tell you? We've been together through thick or thin for the last seven years. It's like taking my right arm off."

— Charlie Monroe, Navy Seabee veteran

"I've got two little 7-year-old granddaughters. I know I'm not living forever, but I would have liked to see them graduate from high school."

— Charlie Bourg

December 2021

"This is dangerous, and they're going to inflict it on my fellow veterans."

— Monica McLaughlin, Navy veteran and nurse at Mann-Grandstaff

"My fear was that somebody was going to die."

— Heather Hill, psychotherapist

The Marine

A widow's hands holding a folded flag and a photograph of her and her husband
His widow, with the flag and a photograph of her husband
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A 77-year-old Marine. Vietnam. A patient of the Columbus VA.

September 2022

He checked into a hospital unable to breathe, days from starting cancer treatment. Antibiotics were ordered into the new VA system. When his wife called the VA pharmacy to confirm they had shipped, an employee read her a tracking number from the system.

It belonged to a different veteran, two thousand miles away.

His prescription was sitting in a Columbus VA pharmacy. Nobody told her. His breathing collapsed that night. The antibiotics arrived thirty-six hours late. He died eight days later.

The department classified the delay as catastrophic.

"VA failed on the prescription." "It might have given us more time."

— his widow

The count

These are not outside estimates. These are the department's own numbers.

250,000
veterans exposed to inaccurate medication and allergy records
11,000+
orders for scans, referrals and lab work the system silently failed to deliver at a single hospital in eight months
4,601
cases of harm to veterans across the five hospitals where the system was first installed, through August 1, 2025
10
cases the department classified as catastrophic
6
veterans dead
"Nearly 150 veterans were harmed by delays in care resulting from this unknown queue." — David Case, Deputy Inspector General · Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs · July 20, 2022
Exhibit · VA OIG Report #22-01137-204
Excerpt from the OIG report: clinical reviewers conducted 1,286 facility event assessments and identified and classified 149 adverse events for patients — major harm 2, moderate harm 52, minor harm 95
1,286 assessments · 149 adverse events · major 2 · moderate 52 · minor 95
Exhibit · Table 3 · Examples of VHA-assessed cases of patient harm
OIG Table 3: examples of VHA-assessed patient harm from the unknown queue — a suicide-risk follow-up order lost (major); compression hose order lost, urgent care required (moderate); diabetes education order lost for 14 months (minor)
VA Office of Inspector General · July 2022

"A healthcare provider entered a follow-up psychiatric care order for a homeless patient identified as at risk for suicide."

"The new EHR sent the order to the unknown queue."

"The patient was not scheduled for follow-up care and later contacted the Veterans Crisis Line reporting a razor in hand and a plan to kill himself."

"The patient was psychiatrically hospitalized."

— VA Office of Inspector General, July 2022

What the company knew

Rep. Rosendale: "Do you think that it is fair to use the VA and our Nation's heroes as a testing ground for your products?" · Mike Sicilia, EVP Oracle: "We are not universally creating custom products at our discretion. We are instructed and contracted to do so by the VA…" · May 9, 2023

"Oracle Cerner was aware of the EHR's unknown queue prior to VA's go-live with the new EHR."

"VHA assessed the risk as major severity, frequently occurring, and very difficult to detect."

"On an Oracle Cerner user help forum, the OIG found several instances, going back to 2014, where Oracle Cerner customers identified challenges with the unknown queue."

— VA Office of Inspector General, July 2022

"Our findings show that nothing related to the EHR's functionality or performance had anything to do with the care this veteran received."

— Michael Egbert, Vice President of Corporate Communications, Oracle · September 2022

Right now

Fourteen hospitals were running the system as of July 2026. Thirty-six more are scheduled through January 2028.

On August 19, 2026, the department raised the vendor's contract ceiling by another $17 billion, to nearly $27 billion total, and extended the contract to 2031.

"no changes to the nature of the work"

— Contract modification, August 19, 2026

Charlie Bourg's referral is still the reason he is dying. The system that lost it is being installed in more hospitals right now.

If you work at VA — any role. Not just clinicians. Schedulers, consult coordinators, pharmacy techs, transport, housekeeping. Report what you're seeing, to a record the department does not control.

If you're a veteran, a family member, or a caregiver. This system is being installed in the hospitals that care for you. You have a voice here too.

What you can do

Start wherever you are. Steps marked anonymous require no name or email. Every path counts.

Step 1

Join the movement.

Follow our social media, join a local Stop the Rollout community, and learn about other actions you can take. Two optional questions, then an email address or Signal handle — use a personal one, never a VA email or device.

Click here to join the movement

Step 2

Learn more · anonymous

Read the history. Read the peer-reviewed case against the rollout. Check our sources against your own experience — that's what evidence-based means.

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Read the comprehensive history (PDF) →
Attend an urgent National Stop the Rollout workshop →

Step 3

Blow the whistle · anonymous option · read the guide first

First, download the reporting guide — what to document, how, and what's legally protected. Save a copy for your records. Read it before you talk to anyone. Then, if you're ready, file an intake with the Government Accountability Project attorneys who are aggregating clinician reports.

Download the event reporting guide (Word doc) →
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